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02 August 2015


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How can PNG respect Australia when Australia treats PNG law with contempt?

The MP for Papua New Guinea's Manus Island says nothing has been done to return three Australians to face rape charges.

The three, who worked for a security contractor at the Australian-run asylum seeker detention centre, are accused of raping another employee.

Shortly after the alleged rape in July, the three were flown out of the country.

The PNG government says it asked the Australian government to extradite the men and Australia's then-prime minister, Tony Abbott, said his government was cooperating with its request.

But the Manus MP, Ronnie Knight, says the case appears to have been swept under the carpet.

"Well basically nothing has happened. The father and the relatives of the person who was raped, they were promised that within that week those people would be brought back for questioning and investigation and charging if there was something to be charged, and that one week was several months ago. It's disgusting."

Ronnie Knight says there has been little information from the government and the police about the case's progress.

Hi Peter K & Peter W. Thank you for your comments. Alan Patience's interview provides useful insights and may have assisted in the momentum leading up to the 2004 ECP case.

Unfortunately I do not have 'terms of the agreement' re Manus Island deal. Secret indeed. These documents seems to come up only when there's a court case (same with ECP Agreement).

Immunity may be necessary at times, and yet exploitative at others when a party is unaware and complacent. Interesting times ahead.

Yes Peter W. Kranskys are good kaikai and I believe my ancestors were somehow responsible! The precise origin is probably now SW Poland (previously a part of German territory) known as Silesia. My great-great-great relos migrated to Australia after the 1848 revolutions.

Good to know that I'm named after a sausage! Actually it means a wreath or garland, as Kransky sausages are traditionally arranged in a circle, hence the name.

Some still say I'm a bit of a sausage.

Rose finds this hilarious and has now taken to calling me sausage man, until I point out that her birth namesake - Salome - was responsible for cutting the head off John the baptist.


Thanks Peter K. I well remember doing some welding repairs on the cell doors in the Kundiawa kalabus (some nasties had broken out, yet again) and I swore on the Almighty God (not bad for an atheist) that I would never get myself banged up in a PNG kalabus.

I always kept a few hundred of folding material in my boot to avoid such an occurrence.

Are you from a long line of sausage makers? In Madang, one supermarket had Kranzie sausages, and quite nice they were too.

A multi-cultural cross between Polish, Danish, Icelandic and Albanian sausages, with a bit of PNG sawdust thrown in for a fuller flavour.

Indeed Peter W (great names think alike).

I was banged up in a police cell at Hohola for the afternoon due to a trumped-up traffic charge. I had no immunity, being directly employed in PNG.

The police were very nice and even brought me tea and biscuits. After some negotiation and a quick trip to the Boroko ATM I was released without charge.

Not that I'm saying anything corrupt took place. You may think that, but I cannot possibly comment.

(Look up Francis Urquhart.)

Peter, it is very common for government employees of one country to be given immunity from prosecution in a foreign country, where the government employee is conducting government business.

This is particularly so with Defence forces (and of course Defence personnel are licensed to kill in hostile situations). Most countries subscribe to it.

In the case of the 2004 fiasco, the protocol was in force to prevent an Australian (say) accountant getting too close to exposing corruption, and the corrupt hitting up (sexually ?) a nine year old girl, and then accusing the accountant of (sexual ?) violence, rigging the case, and putting the accountant away for a long spell.

That scenario has happened before.

The protocol does insist that an offender be tried in his/ her home country for any alleged offence, and home countries do have legislation enabling this.

This protocol does not extend to non- government employees working in the foreign country. So you and I are open to spending a few years in the cells in Papua New Guinea.

Worth re-reading this interview with Alan Patience when the question of immunity from PNG law caused a stink between PNG and Australia in 2004.

Perhaps Bal can do some digging and tell us which expats are now given immunity? Diplomats presumably, AFP officers working in PNG perhaps? Detention centre expat staff? AUSAID staff? ADF personnel?

It would be interesting to see the terms of the agreement between PNG and Australia covering the operation of the detention centres - relevant jurisdictions, role of the police, legal authorities, the status of contracting agencies etc.

But of course we can't because it's a secret 'operational matter.'

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